The MSG controversy

Posted by Fuchsia on August 21, 2013
Chinese cuisine, Food and health, Ingredients

This article ‘Breaking Bland’, by John Mahoney, is the most lucid, informative and interesting I’ve read on the whole MSG controversy. It goes into great detail about what exactly MSG is, how it is made, and how the human body interacts with glutamates.

It’s quite magnificently ironic that just as chefs at the cutting edge of Western gastronomy are becoming fascinated by MSG and umami, the Chinese are waking up to the stigma that has been attached to it for forty years and losing their taste for it, if this article in the Economic Observer, ‘China loses its taste for MSG’, is to be believed!

Even if Chinese people do request their food ‘without MSG’, it’s amazing how many chefs will continue to use so-called ‘chicken essence’ (ji jing 鸡精) anyway – and the cheap commercial ‘chicken essence’, which gives so many Chinese soups that intense umami taste and lurid yellow colour, has as its major ingredient MSG!

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14 Comments to The MSG controversy

Joanne Gruskin
21 August 2013

(I already posted this on Buzzfeed, but want everyone to see it and feel my disgust.) I went through this entire article holding my breath awaiting reference to migraine disease. When I could no longer hold my breath, I did a search, the results of which yielded a few references but only among the comments. I know many people who agree with every word you have written, but none of them has been awakened at 3 AM by the Migraine Monster. Yes, I have kept extensive diaries: every migraine has appeared after ingesting something on your list of foods with the elusive ingredients. No, not MSG, I’m not stupid enough to consume that stuff, but the rest: Parmesan, tomatoes, mushrooms, your whole list. Write away, talk about MSG as GRAS, but give me your phone number, so I can call you at 3 AM and relieve my poor husband of the burden of living with a migraineur.

Ruby Tuesday
21 August 2013

“It’s quite magnificently ironic”

No it isn’t. It isn’t ironic in the slightest. It might be surprising, controversial, interesting, illogical etc., but it sure as hell isn’t “ironic”.

Look up “ironic” in a dictionary. It doesn’t mean “to my surprise”.

Fuchsia
21 August 2013

Ruby – I refer you to the third definition of irony in the Collins English dictionary!

ninive
21 August 2013

@joanne
you are probably suffering from histamine intolerance, looking into that may be worthwhile the effort.

Grace
22 August 2013

My parents still use ji jing but not pure MSG. In fact, they put it in almost everything. I suspect they put MSG in a separate category even though ji jing is mostly the same stuff. I wonder if they’ve ever read the ingredient list…

Mike
23 August 2013

MSG has absolutely no effect on me.

David Ockey
23 August 2013

I love that even an article about food can raise people’s online ire nowadays! I too suffer from migraines, but not from MSG. Dried onions, artificial fruit flavoring, yes. Sometimes even spicy food! I did, however, get a nasty one from canned Chinese food that I was served years ago. It was the most awful tasting stuff anyway, so there is NO chance of a repeat of that! It’s hard to tell what gives people the ailments they have. But the science doesn’t support it MSG causing anything. At least not from what I’ve read. Plain and simple, I stay away from the things that give mean any ache or pain, unless I love the taste of it! If you believe MSG is not for you then stay away from it. It’s not necessary to get upset at someone for quoting what scientists have discovered.

I would say though that I have a taste for things more in their natural, sweet state. I never use much salt or anything. Too each his/her own.

Gary Price
26 August 2013

MSG is evil! I have been in the chemical business for 30 years – long enough to know the S in MSG is from Sodium Hydroxide – Caustic Soda. It is an industrial raw material made by running electricity through salt, often in a cell filled with Mercury! If you want unami, eat more mushrooms – they are natural and loaded with glutamic acid.

ATN
26 August 2013

@Gary Price, the Castner-Kellner process (the one with the mercury) is not the only production process for NaOH and the NaOH from that process would never be used for food production. And after 30 years in the chemical business, you should know really know the basics of an ionic compound and the simple acid-base reaction.

JEM
11 September 2013

I bought a couple of the packets of different preserved vegetables last week that you refer to in your ‘mustard index’ post, and discover they’re stuffed full of MSG. Only your famous ya cai seems to be free of E621.

The Sichuan chilli broadbean paste I bought is also full of it. Surely when you’ve fermented your broadbeans and then added a load of chilli you don’t need flavour enhancing.

New Moon Loon on Gerrard St. was the source of the ya cai and the enhanced-flavour chilli paste. Is there anywhere in London that sells un-enhanced chilli paste?

Thanks

mminuk
11 September 2013

You will be hard pressed to find any Asian condiments – not just Chinese, but also Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese, Malaysian – that do not contain MSG, and as the EO article pointed out, it is common in all sorts of Western processed foods and snacks. It’s a shame that liberal use of MSG, cornstarch and bicarbonate of soda has become standard practice in much Chinese ‘cuisine’, and it’s encouraging that Chinese themselves are moving away from MSG.

JEM
19 September 2013

See Woo on Lisle Street sell the MSG-free Pixian paste – in the wicker tub containing two plastic pouches. Result!

Sethsmam
24 October 2013

Having just discovered your blog, would like to say how much I am enjoying it. A little bothered by some people who leave you comments. They seem to be a rude, self obsessed smartarse’s. I am allergic to wheat but I do not send hate mail to Mr Kipling for saying how nice his bake well tarts are. Nor do I feel the need to correct his grammar.

Kate
19 November 2013

Hi JEM, New Loon Moon do sell MSG-free chilli bean paste (I think!) – it is on the same shelf as the ‘hot’ paste you mention, made by the same Pixian company and in the same shaped bottle, but called ‘soy bean paste’ instead. I was in there at the weekend, and noticed that the ‘hot’ one (redder colour) had chillis, broadbeans, wheatflour, MSG and a number of other additives, whereas the ‘soy bean paste’ had chillies, broadbeans and wheatflour, nothing else (no soy beans, despite the name…!)

Very confusing but I did ask a shop assistant for Pixian chilli bean paste and he was adamant that it was the ‘soy bean paste’ I wanted, not the ‘hot’ one. Looking back at Fuchsia’s post about chilli bean paste, and her comment that the same Pixian company makes a ‘red oil’ version of the same product with MSG and other additives, it looks like I have the right thing… I think!

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